elizabeth gilbert big magic interview

It feels like a sort of haunting or an imbibing from some spirit from another world. EG: I always say, “If you’re alive, then you’re a creative person.” I know there are people who will buck against that. Which is the death of all fun, and the death of all pleasure, and the death of all experimentation, and in some ways, the death of life. And I was guilty of that, too. I mean, unless you belong to a church and you’re in the choir, which is something that people have in their lives less and less, you don’t have a venue for raising public voices in the world. And that can end up looking like anything. Come on.” I just felt this great passion while I was reading it. To the point that we will call each other on Monday and start planning what we’d be singing on Wednesday. A lot of us have art scars, right? No other animal would do that. Passion’s greedy, in a way. We have sight, we have hearing, we have sound, we have emotion. I know there’s this big school of thought that says that you should never talk about a creative project when you’re working on it because you’re less likely to do the work if you speak about it. Shake hands, make friends. But if you can get the humility and the faith to trust them, and to just turn your head a quarter of an inch and look a little bit closer every day at whatever might have caught your attention, no matter how nothing it may seem, then all that stuff is a clue on the great scavenger hunt of life. That it’s not for them. We all do that stuff. EG: Reading those essays was really revelatory for me, because it helped me to be able to formulate in my own mind an answer to a question I have never been able to answer, which is, “Why did Eat, Pray, Love do what it did?” Why? Academia.edu is a platform for academics to share research papers. Is this what the audiences are looking for right now?”. Questions of courage, entitlement, and self-confidence. What if you can say, ‘I made a grave error here, because a younger version of myself, who didn’t know what was coming, made this choice,’ and now the older version of herself or himself, who’s standing in this position, can see this is not working?”. Because you didn’t yesterday. So you’ve got to do that one, or you’ve got to do “Living On A Prayer,” or another really good one is “Faithfully.” Any Journey song, basically, is very good. And you can say to yourself, “I know it feels like this is the end of your life, but we’re just trying to write a poem. It’s about this.” And once you say it, you’re like, “I guess I’m doing that.” Because now I’ve said it. Writing is a kind of whispered voice. Gilbert continued the work started in Big Magic with her Magic Lessons podcast in which she interviews famous creatives including Brene Brown and Sarah Jones. Her new book, Big Magic: Creative Living Beyond Fear (Riverhead), which grew out of her hugely popular TED talk, directly addresses the fans Gilbert has won over the years with her wit and candor, many of whom approached her with their own creative frustrations. Please don’t make me explain that. Evidence of creation is around us at all times. It caused the end of kings. There’s something I’ve realized. Constantly saying yes. All choices. A: Do you have any favorite audiobook narrators? ISBN 978-0-698-40831-9 … It started the end of racism. The Best Black Audiobook Narrators to Listen To Right Now, Escape From Our Echo Chambers Starts With Listening Greatness, Claire Adam's Debut Novel 'Golden Child' Shows That No Person Is An Island, Even When Living On One, 7 Ways You Can Enjoy The Baby-Sitters Club, Kittens, Kisses, And Razorblades: Behind Star Trek's Iconic Sounds. Say it. Where you didn’t even know you wanted that, until you heard your voice say it. It demands the full commitment from you, demands that you risk everything, that you throw every chip in the pot. Stars are exploding, new galaxies are forming. Do you want to do this? There’s certainly nothing to be lost. I have a very strong commitment to non-violence against myself, that extends, I hope, into a sense of non-violence against anybody else as well. That public singing, public collective singing, is a very important part of the human being. A: Can you talk about the importance of that central paradox where what you’re doing is important, but yet it doesn’t really matter? And what that is, is big magic, because it unfolds aspects of yourself that you never knew you had. A: Perfect segue. p. cm. Committed to tackling fear and self-doubt, she helps others do the same through workshops, Ted Talks and more. What will people think of this? It might lead you to your passion, or it might not. I feel like I want to give more and more people permission to engage with their creativity because they’ll have the possibility of bumping up against big magic in the process. Tomorrow’s going to look exactly like today. Big Magic Elizabeth Gilbert. A: In one of your TED talks, you spoke about that idea of inspiration coming from without, that it’s more of a psychological construct than any kind of metaphysical “magic.”. We take something, we look at it, we don’t like the way it is, we change it. Here’s the thing: If you live in a purely flatlined, rational world, then creativity’s simply the least rational thing you could ever possibly do. A: You’ve certainly followed your curiosity and caught that tiger by the tail in the process. We’re antennas. It’s beautiful, and I’m super honored to have been a part of it. They’re always going to be together because your creativity asks you again, and again, and again to enter into realms of uncertain outcome. And that’s literally what it feels like. Can you offer me a more interesting alternative to this thing that I want to do? You can even just call it your mind, open to the fact that there is a great deal going on here that is very weird, and the creative part of your mind must be preserved from a life of pure rational thought or it will never be able to make anything interesting at all. I get really inspired by the women who I meet on social media, and the fact that I can have a conversation on Facebook with a young woman in Saudi Arabia who is debating this question of how much agency she has over her life in a society that tries to make sure she has none, and what she should do about that. If you’re going to sing karaoke, you’ve got to sing an anthem. Things are being born, things are dying, things are being made, things are falling apart. The first edition of the novel was published in September 22nd 2015, and was written by Elizabeth Gilbert. I’m a fixed entity.” All evidence points to that not being true. EG: Exactly. The answer is yes.” I don’t know why this is presented as a choice. What are your thoughts on what inspiration feels like? Transcript Krista Tippett, host: Elizabeth Gilbert’s name is synonymous with her fantastically bestselling memoir, Eat Pray Love , but she started out writing for publications by men and for men. It’s your piece of the pie. Who cares? There’s so much excitement,” because your fear’s like, “If I draw a picture of a snowman, I’m going to die. No animals were injured in the making of this poem.” It’s more about walking hand in hand with your fear and making space for it rather than trying to drive it out. There’s a lot you can do with your little sack of silver. Her new book, Big Magic: Creative Living Beyond Fear (Riverhead), which grew out of her hugely popular TED talk, directly addresses the fans Gilbert has won over the … It doesn’t get to ever suggest detours. You know, if you look at it just from a biological standpoint, what you’re doing when you’re engaging in pure creativity is you’re saying to the universe, to the world, to yourself, “I’m going to take the most precious resource I have, which is my time, my life, my energy that could be used doing very reasonable things. The focus should be, “Okay, that exit ramp is scary, and yet we have this thing we need to do and so we’re just going to keep driving down that highway, and you’re going to have to hold it until we get there. We hadn’t been before. You can invest it in making it grow, you can share it, you can give it away. I write by season; I write book by book. Let me help you out with this. But Elizabeth’s role in the culture transcends authorship. And then it brings these common symptoms: The chills up the back of your neck, the bumps on your arm. Are we going to do this? That same feeling you get when you’re standing over a cliff looking into a precipice where you sort of want to jump but you’re terrified. If you’re like, “Uh, it doesn’t matter. Her book, Big Magic, is a joyful exploration of the artistic self. I want that story to be more clear, and more precise, and… even better. I’m not interested in being fearless. It is a sacred and holy thing and, I’m happy to be a part of it every Wednesday night. We turned to someone who literally wrote the book on creativity, Elizabeth Gilbert. The important thing is what the thing does to you. Watch Elizabeth Gilbert give her TED talk. We can’t all be Steve Perry, but we can try. Life is something that the universe is doing. That’s how a battery works, and then that’s how an engine runs, so that’s the battery flippage that you need to be doing in your creativity. For me, the most interesting part of that entire engagement is not necessarily the thing that you end up making. They’re the creative ones in the class. On one hand, I can talk about inspiration in a way that will make empirical people not get hives, and the way that I talk about it then is to say, “It feels like …” We lean on metaphor. There’s that lovely line, “Make an argument for your limitations and you get to keep them.” I’d been arguing really hard for my limitations and there is a place in the world for recognizing your vulnerabilities and recognizing your weaknesses, and then there’s a place where you say to yourself, “Okay, but yeah, enough.” Enough, because what I realized was that my fears were keeping my life very boring, and I didn’t want to have a boring life. I do all that stuff. The great artist and cartoonist, Linda Barry, has this fantastic way of describing this, because she teaches people who are not artists how to make art. Also, there’s that sense that if you didn’t go to the right school and you don’t have the right degree and you don’t live in the right city, then the arts are not for you—that the arts belong to the special, the tormented, and the professional. A: Some authors describe how when they read their work out loud, or perform what they’ve written, it can be very emotional. I was a late adapter to social media, and my reasons were just as snobby as everybody else’s. When I’m writing, I have to address every sentence as if the future of nations depends on getting this thing right. I’m never going to go after you anymore. How has your life changed in the ten years since it was published? Your ancestors and mine. It’s what making that thing does to you internally. But I know that I cared about writing more than they did, and I worked harder than they did, and I think that’s extremely important. I think we often are in this battle against our multiple voices. I’ve never written something that comes from such a strong place of, “This is how it is.” There’s almost this real firmness of it, so the emotion that I was feeling was more an urgency, like, “Come on, you guys. “Without fear” denies fear, right? That’s where creation begins. It’s a vehicle for me to explore ideas that I’ve had for a while about female promiscuity. We’re stuck with each other and we have these outrageously adept senses. We’re all creative people, but I certainly think that there are some people who are particularly gifted at one outlet of expression. I’m saying, “Look, you guys will have your chance. You didn’t even know that that marriage was done until you suddenly, out of nowhere, said the words, “This isn’t working anymore.” You didn’t even know how much you hated that job until one night you hear yourself saying, “I literally cannot go another day at this place.”. I wanted to edit and change things, because telling something is very different from writing something, and being in that audio booth, my sense was this awareness of an audience of people who I was speaking to rather than an audience of readers who I’m writing to, and that’s a really different thing. My friend, Rob Bell, says we get stuck in a static-state universe where we think, “Nothing is happening here. For me, my whole life of creativity has not been about becoming fearless. There are things that just have to be spoken, and then, once they’re spoken, there’s a great deal of power. I might die. I think there’s even a TED talk about this that has some very good sociological data to back it up; that there’s a part of your brain that can’t tell the difference between you talking about doing a thing and doing a thing. For better or for worse, every inch of this earth has been altered by human making. From the worldwide bestselling author of Eat Pray Love: the path to the vibrant, fulfilling life you’ve dreamed of. But I’m also talking in my writing room. But “beyond fear” includes fear. Our ancestors had that, and then, if you look at children, they’re born doing this stuff instinctively. I might do it wrong and it might kill me.”. Do you believe in hard work, or do you believe in magic?” And I was like, “Yes. What I think is so moving is that so often, the really important statement is, “This is not working for me,” and you do not need to have the next answer to be able to say that. No offense, I watch Netflix like every single night. Awhile back she shared on Facebook that she would be doing a podcast called Magic Lessons, and she asked people to share their creative struggles and would pick a few to interview for her podcast. That is how it is. Whenever you can use metaphoric language around people who are really uncomfortable with mystery, they relax. I don’t even know where to begin answering this.” The short answer is, “No, I’m not concerned about my fear and anxiety.”. What was your favourite thing to do before someone told you weren't very good at it? Then again, how many times do I say, “We’re not here to be perfect?” We’re in process. It’s fantastic. EG: My favorite books of all time today, acknowledging that the list might be different tomorrow and I’m just spit-balling this off the top of my head, are: David Copperfield by Mr. Charles Dickens, Middlemarch by George Elliot, Leaves of Grass by Walt Whitman, The Collected Poems of Jack Gilbert. The most important thing I ever did in my life was that year, and that time spent alone in reflection and contemplation, and really getting as firm as think it’s possible to get when we’re such shifting, weird beings. Can I actually pull this off? Until the world kind of got boring with scientific reason, and rational thought, and empiricism. I live in a small town, which has this tiny little bar at the basement of this old hotel, where every Wednesday night is Karaoke Night. If it’s just the grind and you have no sense of mysticism or imagination, then you’re not going to be a creator. But if you’re one hundred percent committed, you always look kind of cool, no matter how bad it turns out. Those are a great comfort to me, and I love, love, love her voice. Creativity itself is, at its essence, a terribly irrational behavior. And that’s what I’m going to do now for a few years,” and that is weird. The Tim Ferriss Show Transcripts — Elizabeth Gilbert’s Creative Path: Saying No, Trusting Your Intuition, Index Cards, Integrity Checks, Grief, Awe, and Much More (#430) Please enjoy this transcript of my interview with Elizabeth Gilbert (@GilbertLiz), the #1 New York Times bestselling author of Big Magic and Eat, Pray, Love, as well as several other internationally bestselling books. And not only that, so did everyone until about two hundred years ago. Look, we’re all beneficiaries of science, and rationalism, and empiricism. EG: Well, my storied karaoke career, I feel, has not gotten the coverage that it deserves. With the gentle empathy and the recognition that probably no one will die from this, even though it feels like that. Instead, it gives you more time for Netflix. That’s the place to do it; that’s the place to keep that little spot of you for magic. “Oh, this is the city where my family lives, so I’m staying here.”, Somewhere in the pages of Eat, Pray, Love, at different various moments, all of those people saw me questioning that, and saying, “But what if your life actually does not have to look the same tomorrow as it looks today? They just flip like this. My concern is that the world is filled with millions and millions of people who are not making anything, and it is in our nature to be makers. It’s interesting, but is there something else, right? On the other hand, I totally fucking believe this shit is real. I’m totally capable of holding two completely contradictory ideas at the same time. ‎Bestselling author Elizabeth Gilbert returns for the second season of her hit podcast MAGIC LESSONS, ready to help another batch of aspiring artists overcome their fears and create more joyfully. In my head, Elizabeth Gilbert is my best friend so doing a phone interview with her was absolutely one of the highlights of last year for me. EG: Let’s start with exactly the same. My ear needs to hear that I used the word “very” six times on that page. Because something will happen to you in the making of that that will be very worth doing. These are wonderful places to be having those exchanges. I think a lot of the reason that people won’t say that, is because the next immediate follow up question is, “Well then now what are you going to do?” And you can say, “I don’t know. I’m asking the characters what they want the world to know about them. “We’re stuck with each other forever. It does feel like you’re being inhabited by some idea, and in fact, I would say that you are, and what that idea is doing as it’s sending you all these signals and clues is that it’s asking you a question and the question that it’s asking you is, “Do you want to do this with me? A: You talked about what big magic does to you, and inspiration came up. It doesn’t get to choose the snacks. Do you want to do this?”. Inspiration, for you, is grounded in curiosity and following that curiosity in an authentic and open way. You can bury it because you’re so afraid that someone will steal it. Let’s have this be as peaceful a neighborhood as it can be. Amy Brinker: Hello! Which is also why as I’m writing, I’m usually often speaking. Then there’s also the case of whether you want to say it so the other people hear it. A: Tell us one thing about yourself we can’t find on Wikipedia. I’m a little busy. The polymath author Elizabeth Gilbert—short-story writer, National Magazine Award–winning journalist, blockbuster memoirist (Eat, Pray, Love; Committed: A Love Story), and historical novelist (The Signature of All Things)—has now taken on a new role: creativity guru. Passion can also burn hot and it can burn out. That’s it. People who are just being told that they’re here to produce and consume and be a cog in the machine. When you’ve accepted, “Well, that’s just how it is and it’s how it’s always going to be, I made my bed and now I’ve got to sleep in it,” or, “I’m the one who went to college and studied this career and now I’m in this job.” A trailing off of your life where you’re like, “Well, I guess …” You know that helpless tone that people fall into. The waking up at four o’clock in the morning and you’re still thinking about this thing and you can’t shake it. So tell us, who is Pitiful Pearl? It’s just that your fear always asks you to do the same thing, which is: nothing. Which is of course an emotion, but a different one from the sort of tearfulness and the vulnerability that I felt when I was reading Eat, Pray, Love. It is always scary. In this case, it happens to be your memoir. A: It’s interesting that there’s this parallel between these two books, Big Magic and Eat, Pray, Love Made Me Do It. Big Magic is about inspiration, how an idea comes from without. Writers tend to be interior people, but you also have a very public role as a writer and speaker. “Eh, it’s a little too much trouble. It’s going to be all right. I almost feel like you should get a second pass at editing the book after you’ve read it for the audiobook, because you’re going to hear mistakes and imperfections that you can later fix. There’s no traditional culture in the world that does not engage in public collective singing. Permission plus perfectionism, as far as I can see, are really the two issues that make Big Magic and the question of creativity something that we have to discuss. Use of this site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement (updated 1/1/20) and Privacy Policy and Cookie Statement (updated 1/1/20) and Your California Privacy Rights. I can totally believe in genies and magic and unseen spirit forces at the same time that I can believe in evolution and global warming and vaccination. I sit there talking to invisible forces all day, out loud. That’s how impressed I was with Big Magic, how profoundly it moved me, and the impact it had on relighting a dying creative flame. Like you could have an extra couple coins that you were thrown. My friend, the great performance artist Sarah Jones, has a wonderful way of saying this. And most of our lives, we say no. It’s all in us, and then somewhere along the line, there comes this moment where, usually in school, you get the message that, “Actually, Jennifer is creative, and Joshua. It’s something that would have been weighed, so that everyone is given a certain allotment. So it’s not enough to just say, “You have it or you don’t have it,” and I also love this idea some people have it, some people don’t. So of course, when I gave my TED talk, I spoke that way. I made some bullshit case about it, but really I just wanted to hear her magnificent voice take command of that story. They’re a polarity between positive and negative. Not this anymore. So you’re this thing that’s happening. A: You mentioned despairing depression. You’ve thrown it, and then you’ve got to go catch up with it. When you say you’re going to do something. You know, I really do feel like I can divide my life between, “Before Eat, Pray, Love” and “After,” and I don’t mean before the phenomenon of Eat, Pray, Love and after. Ok, well, from where? Vogue may earn a portion of sales from products that are purchased through our site as part of our Affiliate Partnerships with retailers. This process of constantly being in the state of becoming. Why do we do this? I know you all know what I’m talking about. That we can’t just find it in ourselves? To spend your life defending your fears. If I can shake those two trees a little bit, than maybe we can get some more people ceasing to simply be consumers, and to become makers instead. But I’m interested in your fear and anxiety. Why do I feel like this? It’s going to be there anyway, so it’s not even a question of whether it’s allowed. It’s about a way of being in the world. When you’re working on editing that sentence or trying to master that dance step, or trying to learn how to sing that song, or trying to make whatever the thing is that you’re making, you have to believe that there’s a point, otherwise you will very quickly quit and be like, “Uh, it doesn’t matter.” But then once you’ve made it, you have to release it into this other realm of, “It’s not that big a deal. Beautifully. It’s happening right now, and you’re a part of it, and I think we get stuck. I’d been a rival against myself. Autore. How many units it sells. The problem is, people don’t live a curiosity-driven life because they don’t trust such tiny clues. If you’ve watched either of Elizabeth Gilbert’s erudite and compelling TED talks on creativity (“Success, Failure and the Drive to Keep Creating” and “Your Elusive Creative Genius”), then you know that she is equally talented at speaking eloquently about the ups and downs of the artistic life while injecting warmth, humor, and fitting anecdotes into the conversation. You take your efforts and you enter into this very bizarre, often otherworldly, collaboration with the mysteries of inspiration. What that has to do with your life, I don’t even know why that’s even something that’s keeping you up at night. For me, it’s not so much about what you end up making, or what you end up doing, that defines whether a person is living a creative life. I mean, I really tried to make everyone feel. EG: It’s more like a mouse, really, because curiosity is so small so much of the time. This is my tribe. About their creativity, about inspiration, about the sense of whether or not they have permission to participate in the creative world. It makes you feel like your hand is being guided by the divine. Prone to very dramatic meltdowns at any new experience. There’s this auditorium full of selves, all sort of screaming at each other at the same time, and often in conflict with each other. There will be moments in your life again, where you’re totally helpless and other people will have to take care of you. Overview. Yet curiosity is a generous instinct that just gives. It gave us an iPhone. But we have to pull ourselves through that, because they do matter. A: Well, to your point, it’s almost like we’re disrespecting everyone that came before us. I’m really interested in talking about girls on the wild during the war, and what it means to be young and pretty and decide that you’re going to use your body for pleasure. She said, “That first moment in the room when you’re working with a bunch of adults who stopped drawing when they were children, [and you ask them about why they stopped], normally, they stopped drawing at a very particular, specific moment: When someone made fun of them, or they suddenly realized they weren’t good enough.”. Elizabeth Gilbert returns with her hit podcast MAGIC LESSONS, ready to help another batch of aspiring artists overcome their fears & create more joyfully. My favorite line of his was something that he told a young woman who said that she wanted to be a writer. EG: The really interesting thing about reading for your own audiobook is that the ear hears better than the eye sees. You also narrated Eat, Pray, Love. You’ll have your chance in two years, when I’m done with this and it’s published, to say whatever you want about it. What if it doesn’t have to be the same next year as it was ten years ago? The word “talent” comes to us from Latin. And even really empirical, rational, scientific thinkers will say, “And then this idea came to me.” They always say it that way, right? I don’t know.” You don’t have to know, but it begins with, “Not this.” Start there. A very generous spirit of, “We’re all welcome here,” and that has not changed. It does very interesting work on you while you’re making that work. That’s creativity. Like signing up to participate in a life that has meaning. There’s a great deal of power in that statement because it echoes, and reverberates, and exists in a world now that challenges you. It’s a treasure map to unleash your most creative and expressive life. And when you shift that care into there, you’re signing up for a world of hurt because you’re not in control of what’s going to happen to it next. The weight seems to be in music. I’ve met fearless people. Ad Choices. And it’s also only known to God, or whatever, how much you got paid. Who are you going to be? 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